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Post by jazzhead on Oct 1, 2020 17:46:18 GMT
I didn't realise until coming across the fact yestday that Ran Blake's first solo,piano recording was RAN BLAKE PLAYS SOLO PIANO from 1965 on ESP. It was als one of ESP's first batch of releases. Have any of you ESP experts heard it -- or better still, do you own it? I was playing his mid-70s set WENDE on Owl Records and it was this that prompted me to investigate a little more... I really like that album. The distortion, is that to do with mic placement? Edit: Just read this on All About Jazz: "The minor distortions of the remastered copy though somehow add a mystique to this found gem." www.allaboutjazz.com/plays-solo-piano-ran-blake-esp-disk-review-by-mark-corroto.php?width=768So there's no distortion on the original? Does anyone here have the original release?
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Post by cds23 on Feb 27, 2021 13:17:15 GMT
I would like to know if all red on white "Spiritual Unity" covers were silkscreened or if just the very first black on brown (promo, numbered) and the burgundy on white were. It is really hard to tell. I am asking because the burgundy on white cover often times has smeared letters and that definitely looks like it was slikscreened, but I haven't seen this kind of smearing on the lighter red on white covers. @dottore is your red on white copy silkscreened?
Thanks!
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Post by gregorythefish on Feb 27, 2021 15:15:52 GMT
I believe only the brown numbered one were silkscreened. That is the conventional wisdom I've heard. And the lack of faults in the proper 1st press red/white covers supports it, I'd say.
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Post by cds23 on Feb 28, 2021 18:21:05 GMT
Thanks for your help gregorythefish ! I am quite sure that the burgundy on white labels were slikscreened, though (GST posted a a few pictures in this thread a while back of his burgundy on white first pressing cover). The smearing/smudging has been on pretty much every copy I have been able to find. There are just too many pressing variations of "Spiritual Unity" to keep track. I am thinking about buying a copy with red on white cover, red labels (with "p"/ear) and no booklet. It is approx $180-200 cheaper than similar pressings (also sans booklet), mainly because the seller thinks the red label pressing is a second/later pressing. But the price is still high enough to second guess paying this kind of money on what isn't a true first pressing....
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Post by gregorythefish on Mar 1, 2021 14:41:01 GMT
It is fairly well-established the the red label with ear is the first pressing, so I say do it!
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Post by shpongled on Apr 7, 2021 15:47:22 GMT
Hi,
I am in the process of buying some ESP Disk records. I was wondering if sound quality is worse on repressings (eg: A Sonny Simmons 1975 pressing with the 290 West End) as compared to an original (eg. 156 Riverside). Obviously I would like to buy only originals, but these are hard to come by in any format these days. Any help would be appreciated.
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Post by gregorythefish on Apr 8, 2021 15:17:34 GMT
Hi and welcome, shpongled!
ESP released a ton of great and important music, but they were by no means an audiophile operation. Having heard a few of their represses, I don't think it matters terribly which versions you get, if sonic quality is your main concern. But I also encourage you to seek out more opinions.
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Post by cds23 on Apr 25, 2021 12:52:35 GMT
Hi, I am in the process of buying some ESP Disk records. I was wondering if sound quality is worse on repressings (eg: A Sonny Simmons 1975 pressing with the 290 West End) as compared to an original (eg. 156 Riverside). Obviously I would like to buy only originals, but these are hard to come by in any format these days. Any help would be appreciated. In my experience later pressings, especially those from the 70's with the 290 West End Avenue address are less prone to having massive surface noise. I have several ESP first pressings which, from a sound perspective, s*** a** - most of them being Plastilyte pressings. It seems Plastilyte put a lot more effort into pressing records when commissioned by Blue Note, because all other labels (United Artists, ESP etc.) that had their records pressed with the famous "ear / P" hold at least one record that I filed under "worst pressed records ever". So, buying a first pressing ESP record from 1966 to 1967 or so always bears the risk (for me) that it is going to sound worse than anything I've heard before AND having to buy another, later version as a listening copy.
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Post by shpongled on Apr 29, 2021 22:48:19 GMT
Hi, I am in the process of buying some ESP Disk records. I was wondering if sound quality is worse on repressings (eg: A Sonny Simmons 1975 pressing with the 290 West End) as compared to an original (eg. 156 Riverside). Obviously I would like to buy only originals, but these are hard to come by in any format these days. Any help would be appreciated. In my experience later pressings, especially those from the 70's with the 290 West End Avenue address are less prone to having massive surface noise. I have several ESP first pressings which, from a sound perspective, s*** a** - most of them being Plastilyte pressings. It seems Plastilyte put a lot more effort into pressing records when commissioned by Blue Note, because all other labels (United Artists, ESP etc.) that had their records pressed with the famous "ear / P" hold at least one record that I filed under "worst pressed records ever". So, buying a first pressing ESP record from 1966 to 1967 or so always bears the risk (for me) that it is going to sound worse than anything I've heard before AND having to buy another, later version as a listening copy.
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Post by shpongled on Apr 29, 2021 22:49:14 GMT
In my experience later pressings, especially those from the 70's with the 290 West End Avenue address are less prone to having massive surface noise. I have several ESP first pressings which, from a sound perspective, s*** a** - most of them being Plastilyte pressings. It seems Plastilyte put a lot more effort into pressing records when commissioned by Blue Note, because all other labels (United Artists, ESP etc.) that had their records pressed with the famous "ear / P" hold at least one record that I filed under "worst pressed records ever". So, buying a first pressing ESP record from 1966 to 1967 or so always bears the risk (for me) that it is going to sound worse than anything I've heard before AND having to buy another, later version as a listening copy. Interesting. I have grabbed about five or six first pressings so far and they have all sounded amazing on my system. Far better than I was expecting and totally silent. (Sorry for the blank post above. Not sure how to delete it.)
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Post by HarleyA on Jun 29, 2021 13:33:19 GMT
Hi there. I have the Billie Holiday album - The Lady Lives complete with the ESP Sampler. I have just found this site and I’m interested in delving some more. Any advice?
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Post by saxoblues on Jun 29, 2021 14:11:41 GMT
Hello Esp Fans, is this a misprint on the label whith this adress? 130?
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Post by inscribe on Jan 8, 2022 21:30:04 GMT
I just ran across this post. For dottor jazz (if interested). My copy of Lowell davidson is a 156 5th ave. cover with positive images on labels.
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Post by dottorjazz on Jan 9, 2022 16:50:04 GMT
Hello Esp Fans, is this a misprint on the label whith this adress?<button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> 130? hi saxoblues, wellcome back. my copy is exactly like yours, 130 Riverside Drive on both labels but 180 on back cover. never noticed before: chapeau! and Plastylite ear in dead wax.
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Post by dottorjazz on Jan 9, 2022 16:55:44 GMT
I just ran across this post. For dottor jazz (if interested). My copy of Lowell davidson is a 156 5th ave. cover with positive images on labels. wellcome inscribe: I'm always interested in ESP variations. the original 1012 issue has positive images on labels, 156 Fifth Avenue address on back cover BUT not on labels. my copy is stereo, yours?
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