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Post by bassman on Mar 8, 2016 11:55:38 GMT
sometimes but really seldom, a small surprise may arise. last weekend I was in a little town for a tennis table tournament and there was an open air monthly book fair so I went to take a look. there were two stalls selling records and I thought: I bet there's nothing for me here. Lost! Is it the German mono pressing? With the volume too low on two-thirds of the title track?
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Post by gregorythefish on Mar 8, 2016 15:53:16 GMT
money jungle is a fabulous record. not super rare, but SO good. i have a nice mono original copy. i am not a big fan of duke ellington in the way that some are, but he rips it up on that record, and mingus is simply VICIOUS with that intro. my cover is totally split but the vinyl is glorious. good for you, dott!
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Post by dottorjazz on Mar 8, 2016 15:59:36 GMT
Is it the German mono pressing? With the volume too low on two-thirds of the title track? no, it's original: I do not love reissues. I had this record in the past, then sold it. found among hundreds of pop records: got it soon. Attachment DeletedAttachment Deleted
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Post by gst on Mar 8, 2016 16:54:19 GMT
money jungle is a fabulous record. not super rare, but SO good. i have a nice mono original copy. i am not a big fan of duke ellington in the way that some are, but he rips it up on that record, and mingus is simply VICIOUS with that intro. my cover is totally split but the vinyl is glorious. good for you, dott! Still looking for this one. I guess I should just splurge on Ebay. Love everything Mingus after all.
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Post by bassman on Mar 8, 2016 19:10:55 GMT
money jungle is a fabulous record. not super rare, but SO good. i have a nice mono original copy. i am not a big fan of duke ellington in the way that some are, but he rips it up on that record, and mingus is simply VICIOUS with that intro. my cover is totally split but the vinyl is glorious. good for you, dott! Still looking for this one. I guess I should just splurge on Ebay. Love everything Mingus after all. As for "Money Jungle", I have always loved the music but I never liked the sound. I think the best job that has been done so far, soundwise, is the 2002 Blue Note CD engineered by Ron McMaster. Strangely, Mingus is now in the left channel and Max is in the right - but, at last!!! the cymbals are sounding more like cymbals.
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Post by alunsevern on Mar 10, 2016 9:13:13 GMT
My copy is the UK original HMV issue. The sound is still pretty rough but it's a glorious record -- Mingus in combative form, Duke blithely unconcerned... I must try and sample the CD from 2002, bassman, if as you say it offers a significant improvement.
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Post by bassman on Mar 10, 2016 18:04:57 GMT
My copy is the UK original HMV issue. The sound is still pretty rough but it's a glorious record -- Mingus in combative form, Duke blithely unconcerned... I must try and sample the CD from 2002, bassman, if as you say it offers a significant improvement. Sonic aspects aside, I think most of us love this record. Miles Davis didn't, and for those who are not acquainted with his comments in a famed 1964 blindfold test, here's some delicious reading for you: www.noisemademedoit.com/miles-davis-blind-listening-test/
Though I don't quite agree, I understand his point. But I fully agree with him on another track he was asked to evaluate ("All Blues" by Les McCann) - he is so profoundly right in everything he says! I have listened to so many versions of "All Blues", and I hate them all. There are only two versions I really like: One is the ORIGINAL, and the other is the 1964 Lincoln Center version.
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Post by alunsevern on Mar 10, 2016 18:21:49 GMT
"Record companies should be kicked in the ass. Somebody should take a picket sign and picket the record company." Thanks, bassman. I enjoyed that. Miles was a contrary bastard, but he was often a correct contrary bastard. There's certainly some evidence of, were, tension, or mismatched ideas on MONEY JUNGLE, although I have always liked to believe that you can hear that Duke large;y ignores it and carries on serenely, enjoying himself...
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Post by Evan on Mar 11, 2016 4:20:33 GMT
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Post by bassman on Mar 11, 2016 7:28:25 GMT
Oh, thanks a lot, Evan! Good stuff, really. Also recommended: Leonard Feather's book "From Satchmo to Miles", which includes a long talk between the author and Miles.
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Post by Martin on Mar 18, 2016 12:43:34 GMT
My gradual accumulation of Miles Davis classics continues. I've recently added black/yellow fireworks Bergenfield address label pressings of Cookin' and Workin' to my collection. So now Steamin' has some company and only Relaxin' is needed to complete that little quartet.
The copy of Workin' is a first pressing and boy is the vinyl heavy - I'll have to get out the digital scales at the weekend to confirm my suspicion that it's one of the weightiest biscuits in my collection.
The copy of Cookin' clearly isn't a first pressing (not NY address labels) but it does have some interesting features. The matrix numbers (in the familiar Van Gelder hand) have a "1" at the end. I've seen photos elsewhere of the first pressing and the Esquire version without the "1" at the end so that's set me thinking about theories for the difference. Secondly, the rear cover has errors (which I suspect were also on the first pressing's cover). The track listing includes a tune not actually on the LP: "Just Squeeze Me" and Ira Gitler's liner notes also make reference to this tune. Looks like a simple case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand was doing back in the day at Prestige.
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Post by Martin on Mar 18, 2016 14:31:39 GMT
Well, I've solved the mystery of "Just Squeeze Me" - it's a mis-listing of "When The Lights Are Low" on the sleeve but the label correctly identifies the tune.
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Post by bassman on Mar 18, 2016 15:28:17 GMT
Well, I've solved the mystery of "Just Squeeze Me" - it's a mis-listing of "When The Lights Are Low" on the sleeve but the label correctly identifies the tune. Another peculiar thing about Cookin' is that Tune Up and When Lights Are Low have always appeared as one track for no apparent reason, although being clearly divided by a pause and lacking any connection, either musical or otherwise. Someone in the RVG studio seems to have made a mistake which then resulted in a strange "official" version. So, in digital format, I prefer to store them as two separate files. It just makes more sense to me.
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Post by gregorythefish on Mar 21, 2016 20:10:00 GMT
I splurged in very irresponsible fashion recently and was lucky enough to acquire the following great records, as original, in NM condition:
Horace Silver - "Doin' the thing" Modern Jazz Disciples (New Jazz, self-titled) Toshiko Mariano Quartet (Candid) Paul Chambers - "1st Bassman" Ornette Coleman - "At the Golden Circle, vol. 1" Miles Davis - "At the Blackhawk, vol. 2" (DG, to replace my non-DG copy, now available for trade!) Lee Konitz - With the Gerry Mulligan Quartet (World Pacific) Frank Wess - "Opus in Swing" Phil Urso - "The Philosophy of"
And in retrospect, I spent way too much money recently. Now we must be frugal.
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Post by jcband on Mar 26, 2016 21:10:33 GMT
I am currently listening to some recent buys. Curtis Counts Group ;C3526 Contemporary Sal Salvador; blue note 5035 Coltrane, Mobley, Cohn & Zoot Sims; Tenor Conclave Prlp 7074
Nice recordings and a great way to spend a Saturday. First digging through some boxes bring them home and lean them up then sit back and enjoy.
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