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Post by saxoblues on Jan 8, 2016 8:05:30 GMT
last purchase: Cecil Taylor , Nefertiti on debut Label 148
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Post by gregorythefish on Jan 8, 2016 14:56:58 GMT
saxo,
nice on the esp1004! i have a copy of that. i believe it is original. great stuff. one of my favorite records, for sure!
i know very little about debut. didn't mingus run that label? i thought he hated cecil taylor... interesting!
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Post by saxoblues on Jan 13, 2016 8:15:53 GMT
This debut record are from the Denmark era. I find some explication on Birkajazz page
" In 1955-56 Charles Mingus and Max Roach had become established leaders and they were more involved with their musical careers than to operate a record company. So gradually the Debut label faltered. An additional reason was that the two partners also had differences about the way they would run the company.
Kept alive in Denmark During the last years of the 1950s, the Debut catalogue kept alive in Denmark by Ole Vestegaard, who had leased the company´s catalogue from Charles Mingus. Later on Vestegaard started to produce recordings on his own. About these albums on the Danish Debut, see the Denmark page.
The American Debut was purchased by Fantasy Records in the early 1960s."
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Post by gregorythefish on Jan 13, 2016 14:24:46 GMT
excellent! thanks for the info! i hadn't realized that debut moved to denmark, although now that you mention it, it makes sense, given the aylers coming out of the area at the time...
i recently splurged a bit, and have a few great albums newly added to the shelves, all VG++ or better originals, i am proud to say:
Burton Green Quartet, on ESP Sun Ra - "It's After the End of the World" Pharoah Sanders - "Tauhid" Si Perkoff - "Poet's Journey" (really neat private press free jazz, not expensive, but hard to find) Coltrane - "Cosmic Music" (the impulse issue, so as to fill another gap in the catalog, but i hope to get the Trane Records press someday too!)
Hooray!
I also had a major score in the my quest to explore the world of lo-fi black metal, which is fascinating, but no one here cares about that. ha!
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Post by Martin on Jan 15, 2016 20:02:16 GMT
Ah GTF, you've made me envious. Tauhid is firmly near the top of my "wants" list. Upper Egypt and Lower Egypt is a fantastic track.
My own recent purchases from December all have a common trumpet-led theme:
1). Chet Baker - In New York, a Riverside small blue label DG first pressing in almost NM condition with a lovely laminated cover.
2). Miles Davis - Steamin', a Prestige yellow and black Bergenfield DG label, which for this one is a first pressing. Again in almost NM condition but could do with a clean to get rid of some dust. This also has a nice laminated cover.
3). Donald Byrd - Free Form, Blue Note 4118 mono with New York labels. While recorded in 1960 (or was it 1961?) it wasn't released until 1966, so no Plastylite P for this baby. This one is in NM condition apart from a tiny drill hole on the front cover. I would claim this as a first pressing except that Cohen says it should have a laminated cover.
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Post by gregorythefish on Jan 16, 2016 15:45:30 GMT
i have sought out an original of tauhid for a long time, martin. it was hard won! the key is finding it for a reasonable price, i think.
to that end, a reasonable price for "steamin' has never come my way." but we cannot have everything!
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Post by saxoblues on Feb 4, 2016 7:54:47 GMT
last purchase:
Coltrane Africa brass Impulse a-6 am/par and Coltrane Impulse a-21 am/par both in Stereo Version.
Question for Impulse collector : Stereo or mono?
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Post by gregorythefish on Feb 4, 2016 18:33:50 GMT
nice! I have a mono of africa/brass and MIGHT be purchasing a mono copy of a-21 this weekend if my connection comes through. i have many mono and stereo impulses in my collection, which now houses about 4/5 of the impulse catalog as originals, and i find no real difference in enjoyability or sound quality between mono and stereo on impulse. this is not my experience for other labels, but it IS with impulse. that being said, i know many collectors either prefer mono (dott) or value mono more highly, but i don't really know why when they were released identically at the same time, as was the case with all of the impulse catalog.
recent purchases:
woody shaw - "the moontrane" archie shepp - "fire music" cecil mcbee - "alternate spaces" roy brooks - "the free slave" coltrane - "meditations" (finally!) sonny stitt - "now!"
and a few other odds and ends.
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Post by Evan on Mar 2, 2016 6:57:47 GMT
Got some record vouchers for my birthday a good few weeks back, and somehow managed to sit on them patiently till some NM items off the top of my wantlist came along, which they did in the last two weeks:
Miles Davis - Relaxin' (Esquire), Milestones and Miles Smiles (US original mono) The Ray Draper Quintet with Jackie McLean - Tuba Sounds (US original mono)
I am not anti-stereo, not at all, and would say around two thirds of my jazz records are stereo pressings, but an original mono record is just all kinds of special. The force with which they come out of the speakers, the presence they have... they can be so truly stunning.
I've had some nagging turntable issues of late, and the kind gentleman from the vintage audio shop in which I bought it has been making trips to and from my apartment to help deal with them. A Bill Evans fanatic himself, he asked me during one visit who my favourite artist was. I told him, Jackie McLean. He asked if I had originals of any of his albums to test the new turntable configuration. I pulled out New Soil. He put it on and cranked it up, and when Jackie came in on 'Greasy' he looked at me and shouted some Japanese word I'd never word before. When I told him I didn't understand, he entered it into his phone and held it up to show me the translation: the sheer amount of sound. Quite!
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Post by gregorythefish on Mar 2, 2016 15:09:15 GMT
ray draper! i am very jealous, but isn't that always the symptom of fellow collectors? good for you. if you ever want to sell it, you know where to find me, but on the other hand i would hope that after such a score the proud owner enjoys it for years to come. in the age of digital, i have rarely had the appropriate restraint, but so far i have avoided listening to that and ray draper's newjazz album with coltrane so that i can fully enjoy the vinyl when/if i get them. recent scores for me: charlie parker story on savoy, with the original absurd 'throne' cover, so now i have both versions. jimmy smith - "crazy! baby" original DG mono. i like jimmy smith. i don't care what anyone says! cecil payne - "zodiac" on strata east. fabulous stuff. bari sax, pseudo-free. glorious. THE BIG ONE: stone mint copy (finally!) of the mono am-par A-21, "coltrane" on impulse! so pleased!
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Post by Martin on Mar 2, 2016 20:21:47 GMT
Congratulations on your Am Par mono A21. It's a wonderful pressing. The way Tyner's piano seems to emerge from the mist like a ghost at the start of Tunji raises the hairs on my neck every time.
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Post by Evan on Mar 3, 2016 1:44:16 GMT
ray draper! i am very jealous, but isn't that always the symptom of fellow collectors? good for you. if you ever want to sell it, you know where to find me, but on the other hand i would hope that after such a score the proud owner enjoys it for years to come. in the age of digital, i have rarely had the appropriate restraint, but so far i have avoided listening to that and ray draper's newjazz album with coltrane so that i can fully enjoy the vinyl when/if i get them. recent scores for me: charlie parker story on savoy, with the original absurd 'throne' cover, so now i have both versions. jimmy smith - "crazy! baby" original DG mono. i like jimmy smith. i don't care what anyone says! cecil payne - "zodiac" on strata east. fabulous stuff. bari sax, pseudo-free. glorious. THE BIG ONE: stone mint copy (finally!) of the mono am-par A-21, "coltrane" on impulse! so pleased! I love that Charlie Parker cover. It's so bloody awful and gaudy but I love it. I have the Jimmy Smith one too! Mine is stereo, though, and I'm pretty sure it's a second issue, though still a Plastylite. I'm not the biggest fan of Jimmy if I'm being honest, especially of his Blue Note output - his Verve stuff is more interesting, imo. (That's the Beastie Boys fan in me speaking.) I confess to not knowing the Cecil Payne or the Coltrane records. Congratulations, though! In general do you have any major preference for mono or stereo Impulse issues? I have a few in my sights and wouldn't mind some info. Re: the Ray Drapers, are you interested in rips? I'll be ripping to put on my iPod anyway so it's no trouble to send them to you.
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Post by gregorythefish on Mar 3, 2016 18:23:58 GMT
evan:
mono/stereo: i actually answered that for saxo above!
rips: that's very kind of you. i think i will pass for now, so as to hear them for the first time on nice vinyl, when those days come. gotta have patience!
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Post by Evan on Mar 4, 2016 0:57:39 GMT
That's what I was hoping you'd say re: mono/stereo. Nice one.
Good luck in your Ray Draper hunt, keep me posted and don't hesitate to ask if you change your mind about rips.
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Post by dottorjazz on Mar 8, 2016 8:43:33 GMT
sometimes but really seldom, a small surprise may arise. last weekend I was in a little town for a tennis table tournament and there was an open air monthly book fair so I went to take a look. there were two stalls selling records and I thought: I bet there's nothing for me here. Lost! Attachment Deleted
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