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Post by bassman on Feb 7, 2020 18:46:00 GMT
djpari, do you know who played the trumpet on "Lady Bird"? Does anyone know? No mention of that person anywhere. Donald Byrd, if you're referring to the live album of the same name. Sorry for my misleading question. I mean the first track of "More Power"!
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Post by Doom Girl on Feb 7, 2020 22:47:50 GMT
Sorry for my misleading question. I mean the first track of "More Power"! A version of Gordon's "Lady Bird" that is on YouTube has Blue Mitchell on trumpet. It might be the same track as on More Power! but i'm not sure - I don't have that album.
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Post by bassman on Feb 8, 2020 8:23:17 GMT
Sorry for my misleading question. I mean the first track of "More Power"! A version of Gordon's "Lady Bird" that is on YouTube has Blue Mitchell on trumpet. It might be the same track as on More Power! but i'm not sure - I don't have that album. Thanks for this piece of info. I should have known better, because it seems that this Youtube track, which is part of an album called "True Blue", was mistakenly used for a FAKE Youtube version (see below) of "More Power". I was listening to this one instead of the "real" one while answering djpari's post on recent purchases. One should never do this. The original "More Power" album has NO trumpet player on the first track.
So here's the source of confusion:
youtube.com/watch?v=IBTgieoMH44 (I deleted the first part of the URL to avoid wasting forum space)
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Post by dottorjazz on Feb 9, 2020 11:38:50 GMT
in the last couple of years I've tried to concentrate on New Jazz. there are 97 numbers in catalogue, I had 21. I'm not a completist, so I discharged some out of my interest, 30, which means I have to search for 46 yet, strictly original mono. 21+2=23, 44 to go. so in October were 44 to go. I've added three to my collection: Yusef Lateef Other Sounds, New Jazz 8218, Lem Winchester Lem's Beat, New Jazz 8239 and Lem Winchester Another Opus, New Jazz 8244. 44-3=41 to go. this means I've reached 26, let's go on.
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Post by djpari on Feb 10, 2020 14:15:08 GMT
Donald Byrd, if you're referring to the live album of the same name. Sorry for my misleading question. I mean the first track of "More Power"! Oh, ok. I'm not sure to be honest. There is no mention or credit of a trumpet player anywhere for this album. Don't recall hearing one.
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Post by bassman on Feb 10, 2020 15:26:19 GMT
Sorry for my misleading question. I mean the first track of "More Power"! Oh, ok. I'm not sure to be honest. There is no mention or credit of a trumpet player anywhere for this album. Don't recall hearing one. Sorry again, djpari. I resolved this matter in a different post (see somewhere below):
"[ ... ] I should have known better, because it seems that this Youtube track, which is part of an album called "True Blue", was mistakenly used for a FAKE Youtube version (see below) of "More Power".
I was listening to this one instead of the "real" one while answering djpari's post on recent purchases. One should never do this. The original "More Power" album has NO trumpet player on the first track.
So here's the source of confusion:
youtube.com/watch?v=IBTgieoMH44 (I deleted the first part of the URL to avoid wasting forum space) [ ... ]"
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Post by djpari on Feb 10, 2020 17:39:42 GMT
Oh, ok. I'm not sure to be honest. There is no mention or credit of a trumpet player anywhere for this album. Don't recall hearing one. Sorry again, djpari. I resolved this matter in a different post (see somewhere below):
"[ ... ] I should have known better, because it seems that this Youtube track, which is part of an album called "True Blue", was mistakenly used for a FAKE Youtube version (see below) of "More Power".
I was listening to this one instead of the "real" one while answering djpari's post on recent purchases. One should never do this. The original "More Power" album has NO trumpet player on the first track.
So here's the source of confusion:
youtube.com/watch?v=IBTgieoMH44 (I deleted the first part of the URL to avoid wasting forum space) [ ... ]"
All good, looks like I'm a little slow this morning. I'll catch up ...
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Post by Doom Girl on Feb 13, 2020 1:06:28 GMT
What have you purchased recently.......... A strange oldie I recently came across: the original 1957 Decca release (DL 8558) of The Eastern Scene by The Amram-Barrow Quartet. David Amram and George Barrow are Forest Gump-like characters on the American musical and cultural scenes, turning up at the weirdest times and in the strangest places. Tenor sax player Barrow appeared on at least three of Mingus’ early recordings and on such famous albums as Oliver Nelson’s Blues & the Abstract Truth and Michael Mantler’s Jazz Composer’s Orchestra (the box with the silver- foil cover), in the company of Don Cherry, Gato Barbieri, Pharoah Sanders, et al. It seems that The Eastern Scene is the only album crediting Barrow as a leader. Amram is a multi-instrumentalist (French horn, piano, flute, miniature tuba, pennywhistle) and composer who has recorded with Lionel Hampton, Kenny Dorham and Jerry Jeff Walker (what?), among others. Apart from his “symphonic” compositions, his main claim to fame comes from his friendships and artistic associations with the 50’s “Beat Generation” authors. He composed the music for Robert Frank’s film “Pull My Daisy,” which featured Allen Ginsberg, Gregory Corso and a narration by Jack Kerouac. He has also written several books and is the source of that anecdote that has John Coltrane on a break outside the Café Bohemia (on Barrow Street!) explicating Einstein’s Theory of Relativity, while eating a piece of pie, of course. Given all of that, the music on The Eastern Scene is remarkably sedate, influenced perhaps by early (~1955-1957) Mingus compositions and “The Birth of the Cool” sessions, but, with only a quartet to hand, lacking most of the excitement of those seminal works. To my ear, it is most reminiscent of Jimmy Giuffre’s work from the same period, especially 1958s Trav’lin’ Light, with the piano-less trio with Bob Brookmeyer on valve trombone and Jim Hall, guitar. Barrow has a nice Lester Young-like sound – bringing to mind Stan Getz – and decent ideas. Al Harewood on drums and Arthur Phipps on bass are solid players, with Phipps contributing the best tune on the disc, the bop/Latin hybrid, “Phipps Quips.” Amram is a creative arranger and generally skilled player but leaves a lot to be desired as a jazz musician. There is a plodding quality to his playing, not at all the free flowing lines of the best improvisers. Amram’s sound on the difficult-to-master French horn is a bit off-putting – in his hands, played open it resembles a trombone; with some sort of mute, like a low pitched Harmon-muted trumpet (sounding not unlike Miles Davis on a bad day). All-in-all, I value this album as a 63-year old artifact of American musical and cultural history, rather than an inspiring jazz odyssey. I wonder who before me held and listened to this album – did they enjoy it or has it sat unappreciated in someone’s basement or attic for all of these decades? I think I’ll place it with my collection of ‘50s-era “Beat Generation” books and mementos rather than my jazz records. (LJC gives short shrift to Decca’s jazz releases, not even showing examples of the American record labels. American Decca in fact released early records featuring a mixed bag of players and vocalists - Charlie Ventura, Herbie Fields, Andre Previn, Ella Fitzgerald, Paul Quinichette, Zoot Sims, Jimmy Giuffre among them.)
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Post by bassman on Feb 13, 2020 10:12:47 GMT
What have you purchased recently.......... A strange oldie I recently came across: the original 1957 Decca release (DL 8558) of The Eastern Scene by The Amram-Barrow Quartet. [ ... ] I remember seeing a movie called *The Young Savages* once, starring Burt Lancaster, but I have no idea of the plot or anything else - except the music, which was composed and conducted by David Amram. I still remember the main title, which kept haunting me for some time back then. There is a Columbia LP of the original sound track, but I don't own it.
Also, what you said about DECCA is very true. There are so many treasures of this kind (movie-related jazz music of the late nineteen-fifties etc.) deserving wider recognition.
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Post by Doom Girl on Feb 13, 2020 16:24:06 GMT
I remember seeing a movie called *The Young Savages* once, starring Burt Lancaster, but I have no idea of the plot or anything else - except the music, which was composed and conducted by David Amram. I still remember the main title, which kept haunting me for some time back then. There is a Columbia LP of the original sound track, but I don't own it.
Also, what you said about DECCA is very true. There are so many treasures of this kind (movie-related jazz music of the late nineteen-fifties etc.) deserving wider recognition.
That was another interesting aspect of Amram's checkered career. He also did music for "The Manchurian Candidate" and "Splendor in the Grass."
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