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Post by jazzhead on Mar 2, 2023 17:31:58 GMT
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Post by jazzhead on Mar 3, 2023 11:10:31 GMT
Last night I watched a tribute video that someone posted on YouTube that started with a live clip of Wayne Shorter’s solo which I believe is from the below video. Absolutely exceptional playing by all!
Shorter’s solo starts at 6:20
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Post by jazzhead on Mar 3, 2023 16:11:03 GMT
Just checked the Jazz chart on iTunes and there are now three Wayne Shorter albums in the Top 10.  |
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Post by jazzhead on Mar 3, 2023 16:18:51 GMT
Just about to close iTunes and noticed that there are now four albums in the Top 10!  |
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Post by jazzhead on Mar 3, 2023 23:44:35 GMT
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Post by dg on Mar 4, 2023 23:26:42 GMT
V.S.O.P. was Miles Davis’ second great quintet - Herbie Hancock, Wayne Shorter, Ron Carter and Tony Williams - but with Freddie Hubbard on trumpet instead of Miles. This track is from the first two record V.S.O.P. set on Columbia (PG 34688).
Miles, Hubbard, Williams, Shorter…“When he shall die, take him and cut him out in little stars, and he will make the face of heaven so fine that all the world will be in love with night.”
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Post by bassman on Mar 5, 2023 8:32:53 GMT
There were several attempts to (kind of) revive the Second Quintet, either without Shorter (Herbie Hancock Quartet, with Wynton Marsalis weighing in) or with Shorter and Freddie Hubbard. Not to forget, however, "A Tribute to Miles" (Qwest) with Miles's most dedicated - to the point of self-renunciation* - disciple, Wallace Roney. They all sounded pretty interesting to me at the time, but they lacked some of the sponaneity, and sheer magic, of the original. There are moments in music history that can't be re-created.
*I know, of course, that there was more to him - when he chose to play in his own style.
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Post by gregorythefish on Mar 5, 2023 13:45:20 GMT
...but they lacked some of the sponaneity, and sheer magic, of the original. There are moments in music history that can't be re-created.
Quite right. I very rarely hear it mentioned just how unique Miles' style was. Smears, very little emphasis on fast passages, extremely wide dynamic range, dark, brooding, moody...
Hubbard, Roney, and especially (ugh) Marsalis could never recreate it.
Maybe his ubiquity as the jazz household name makes people forget that in a lot of ways, he was the exception and not at all the rule.
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Post by doomgrl on Mar 5, 2023 15:52:30 GMT
...but they lacked some of the sponaneity, and sheer magic, of the original. There are moments in music history that can't be re-created.
Quite right. I very rarely hear it mentioned just how unique Miles' style was. Smears, very little emphasis on fast passages, extremely wide dynamic range, dark, brooding, moody...
Hubbard, Roney, and especially (ugh) Marsalis could never recreate it.
Maybe his ubiquity as the jazz household name makes people forget that in a lot of ways, he was the exception and not at all the rule.
Which is, I guess, why I have at least a dozen or so albums with Hubbard on them, one or two with Roney, none with Marsalis ---- and nearly everything Miles recorded. (Hancock stated on the first V.S.O.P. liner notes that it was a kind of tribute to Miles - who was still living - and not an attempt to"re-create" or imitate something unique. The "uniqueness" of Miles was, and is, generally acknowledged.) |
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Post by dg on Mar 5, 2023 16:17:47 GMT
The post was meant to highlight some fine playing by Wayne Shorter, whose legacy we are honoring, certainly not to question Miles' unique contributions to music.
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Post by gregorythefish on Mar 6, 2023 14:06:42 GMT
discussions often veer.
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