jcband
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Post by jcband on Sept 15, 2015 0:17:40 GMT
Listening to Horace Silver Song for My Father that just came From the postman.
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Post by Rich on Sept 15, 2015 13:28:25 GMT
Listening to Horace Silver Song for My Father that just came From the postman. Congrats! One of my favorite albums. "Lonely Woman" is probably in my top five jazz ballads of all-time.
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Post by gregorythefish on Sept 15, 2015 21:37:01 GMT
congrats indeed! i love all of horace silver's blue note work, and that album is severely underrated.
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Post by piergj on Sept 16, 2015 12:01:13 GMT
Good morning, i am from Italy, my name is Pierluigi. proud to be here, i have received, Yesterday, two (in the last week 3 in total) Horace albums. One copy very Ex of "Doin...live" in Mono! It's sounds great (but i must admits i still preferred listen to stereo versions). The other titile comes from my North eupopaen Pusher...."6 pieces of Silver" and also in this case is a mono version in EX+ conditions. When i took a listen to the first solo of Mobley i have rembered the reasons why i falled in love, first, with him. Fluency, semi-low register and a just a bit of modernity in his solo's..... excuse for my English...but the passion for jazz could not make up for the deficiencies of my Language....Ciao!
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Post by gregorythefish on Sept 16, 2015 14:51:25 GMT
hi there, piergj, welcome! glad to have you. if you aren't familiar, we have another italian, the famous DottorJazz, on the forum, who i'm sure could help you out if language presents a barrier for you. but for now, your english is just fine. i can understand it, anyway. congratulations on your great purchases! "doin the thing live" is one of the few Silver Blue Notes that I don't have. i tend to prefer mono over stereo. what makes you like the stereo offering more? is that typical for you? or is it just in this case with this record? i just recently happened to obtain the lexington cover to go with the lexington vinyl for "6 pieces". how do you like that one? is yours the lexington version? your description of mobley is exactly in line with my own. he is so great. no show-off nonsense. just organic feeling. excellent. i think your passion for jazz is all that is needed here! welcome to the group.
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Post by Rich on Sept 17, 2015 1:37:12 GMT
I have grown to love Mobley's tone and style in general. I'd say he's very inventive as well, and he did it for so many years. He seems to get a bad wrap from some jazz 'experts', which brings up another topic: I've noticed that some experts kind of see the entire Blue Note coalition of musicians as 'overrated' to a greater or lesser degree. I kept those opinions in mind as I moved forward with my listening, but I feel I'm at a point of experience now where I can confidently disagree: Morgan and Mobley are my shining examples of complete brilliance with their respective instruments.
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Post by gregorythefish on Sept 17, 2015 16:22:30 GMT
I've noticed that some experts kind of see the entire Blue Note coalition of musicians as 'overrated' to a greater or lesser degree. I haven't noticed this. What nonsense if it's true!
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Post by Piergj on Sept 17, 2015 20:27:55 GMT
Thank you for your welcomse. Mine, 6 pieces, is a Lexington copy with both label DG ear and VanGelder. But i am not a serious collectr. I just like music, and i like jazz too. My origins, my backroads are vai new wave and post punk music from England, then i move to seventies progressive groups but, meanwhile, i have discovered Weather Report, Eric Dolphy and some ECM records, i was only seventten but enough curious to open my mind and widening my view of music. Now i am forced me to open one facebook profile ( i am not familiar with social network) but i need to create a Group for a Date, a cultural-music date listening s to jazz with opinion leader in Civitavecchia, near Rome. I will go to presente the last yeras and the lasts progressions of Coltrane music. just a superficial Date but with the help of my Coltrane vinyls...i have some originals...many stereos and two monos. I like stereo, the Impulse Rudy Vangelder pressing are born for stereo, and the phantom center presence of Piano is a big deal for audiophiles men....Ciao
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Post by alunsevern on Sept 18, 2015 15:52:25 GMT
I've noticed that some experts kind of see the entire Blue Note coalition of musicians as 'overrated' to a greater or lesser degree. I haven't noticed this. What nonsense if it's true! Rich, I think you overstate to some degree a view that some do hold - perhaps not quite that the entire stable of BN musicians is over-rated (I certainly don't believe that), but that *some* BN recordings are over-rated simply by virtue of being Blue Note, with which I think I do agree. I also think there is a tendency to over-rate hard bop generally and not see recognise it's sometimes formulaic nature -- for it did sometimes lapse into formulaic cliches, as almost all dominant musical genres have at one time or another.
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Post by gregorythefish on Sept 23, 2015 14:39:52 GMT
I also think there is a tendency to over-rate hard bop generally and not see recognise it's sometimes formulaic nature -- for it did sometimes lapse into formulaic cliches, as almost all dominant musical genres have at one time or another. you are certainly right on this, alun but it is so much more tolerable to me because i love bop so!
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Fredrik
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Post by Fredrik on Sept 24, 2015 16:45:57 GMT
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Post by gregorythefish on Oct 2, 2015 14:20:42 GMT
Happy to report that I finally found what I consider to be a fairly rare item from the want list, even though it is not very expensive. Tal Farlow: The Swinging Guitar, on original DG trumpet labels. Seems to be very rare, as I have not seen a copy on eBay for many, many months, but dozens and dozens of Japanese pressings. The seller also had an original of Barney Kessel's "contemporary latin rhythms" on reprise, which is not as rare or exciting, but I am definitely a Kessel fan, so I took the opportunity to save on shipping. now we wait for the mailman!
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Post by Martin on Oct 5, 2015 12:41:48 GMT
I have just added to my small selection of Impulse LPs with mono first pressings of A21 Coltrane by The John Coltrane Quartette (that's what it says on the sleeve and label) and A23 Out Of The Afternoon by the Roy Haynes Quartet. I don't have many Impulse records so I'm always impressed by the lovely laminated gatefold sleeves. The records have "A Product of Am Par Record Corp" printed of them and there's a Van Gelder stamp and LW etching in the deadwax. Both records are in nearm mint condition and sound lovely.
What confuses me is that the Impulse pressings seem to attract much lower prices than Blue Note mono pressings of the same vintage. These two records are the equal of many contemporary Blue Note releases, so why don't they command the same premium? Perhaps I shouldn't ask, I don't want to draw too much attention to it because I've still got quite a few Impulses on my wants list.
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Post by gregorythefish on Oct 5, 2015 21:35:41 GMT
martin, if you were unaware, i have for about 2 years been attempting to collect originals of each and every record impulse ever released during the original run of the label, 1961-1979. there are about 400 of them including silly things like the "reevaluation" series and such. i am not picky about mono vs stereo, but insist on having the proper 1st pressing label, suffixes, addresses, R designations, etc. i have about 4/5 of them, including the rare and fabulous "Out of the Afternoon". i have all but 3 of the original am-pars. one of the very rare ones that I have not yet gotten is indeed a nice Am-Par copy of A-21, and i must admit i am a bit jealous! many impulses (most?) are worth seeking out, but i have two hypotheses about your pricing disparity concern:
1) impulse was a subsidiary of ABC, and as such there are plenty of commercial nonsense recordings in the impulse discography. nine flags, light my fire, my fair lady loves jazz, etc come to mind. enjoyable but hardly top hard bop or anything like that. conversely, i would argue that nearly every single blue note in the 1500 and 4000 series is at least a 6/10, and most are above 8 from what i've heard.
2) impulse was a much bigger operation, and pressed 10,000 or so of its most popular titles. this is 10 to twenty times more than some of the rarest blue notes. impulse also prolifically repressed albums to a greater extent even than liberty seems to have done after acquiring the BN catalog, so i'm sure this helps keep prices a bit lower.
the better for us!
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Post by dottorjazz on Oct 19, 2015 14:52:07 GMT
here's my newborm, and a little story around it. saturday I attended a record fair in Milano: very very few jazz records. my attention fell on two records: New Jazz 8230, Gigi Gryce Saying Something and Blue Note 4025, Lou Donaldson The Time is Right. Lou is not my best alto man. the price for this BN was high, three times the price of New Jazz but this one had some scuffs that could be heard and the seller, a guy from Germany from whom I usually buy, told me me to have a listen so I could decide to keep the record or take it back. so I got home with NJ, listened to it and judged it NM, scuffs did no harm. but: I didn't like the music so much, ordinary hard bop, no emotions. I took it back and came home with this one. Now I'm happy.
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