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Post by jazzhead on Dec 14, 2017 13:43:18 GMT
Listening to Jazz FM atm and they just played Jamie Cullum - Frontin'. His voice is terrible. He sounds fake. I can't explain it better than that. However, when he stops singing and plays he's pretty good. Have a listen to Frontin' and if you hate his voice as much as I do, skip to 2:55. That solo is really good. I could listen to an album of that.
Thoughts?
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Post by gregorythefish on Dec 15, 2017 2:05:14 GMT
having just listened, i hate every aspect of the song. so there ya go.
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Post by dottorjazz on Dec 15, 2017 6:21:29 GMT
wasted 5 minutes of my life, not for me, I'll stay far.
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Post by alunsevern on Dec 15, 2017 18:00:39 GMT
If I knew what it sounded like, I'd hate it. But then I hate all jazz singing -- even faux jazz singing -- and so there's no reason why i wouldn't hate Jamie Callum's efforts. What's it for? Why is it needed? What's he for for that matter?
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Post by sztiv on Dec 15, 2017 18:08:58 GMT
I'm quite happy listening to the oldest musical instrument.
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Post by jazzhead on Dec 15, 2017 18:14:41 GMT
I don't know Alun. I think if he focused more on just playing piano and stopped singing he'd be ok. That solo at 2:55 is pretty interesting. I cringe when he sings though so I'd never buy his records.
@ sztiv I love Andrew Hill's Lift Every Voice!
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Post by gregorythefish on Dec 15, 2017 18:37:32 GMT
sztiv: those are examples of singing i enjoy. i really like patty waters, leon thomas, jeanne lee, and the poetry readings of archie shepp, leroi jones/amiri baraka, etc. abbey lincoln is great, too. but in general, i stay away from vocals.
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Post by sztiv on Dec 15, 2017 18:56:57 GMT
I think it's kind of strange to ignore the human voice in an art form that has a large part of its roots in this kind of thing. The last 15-20 seconds of this record swings like the clappers. Wish I hadn't lost my copy and of course it never ceases to amaze me how so many of my musical heroes started off playing or singing in church, so no wonder there's so much sacred music influence in jazz.
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Post by sztiv on Dec 15, 2017 19:06:13 GMT
and another thing with so many jazz standards being songs that became frequently played instrumentals or indeed instrumentals that someone wrote lyrics for, I find it really hard not sing along under my breath to a lot of jazz. but Jamie Cullum falls in into the same category as Sade in my book.
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Post by jazzhead on Dec 15, 2017 20:12:55 GMT
Abbey Lincoln's vocals on Max Roach's Percussion Bitter Sweet are pretty special too.
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Post by sztiv on Dec 16, 2017 10:52:24 GMT
So this's the LP with Waldron? That looks very interesting.
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Post by jazzhead on Dec 16, 2017 12:50:00 GMT
Yeah sztiv. Just take a look at the personnel on that album! Booker Little - trumpet Julian Priester - trombone Eric Dolphy - alto saxophone, flute, bass clarinet Clifford Jordan - tenor saxophone Mal Waldron - piano Art Davis - double bass Max Roach - drums, percussion Carlos "Patato" Valdés - congas (1, 3, 6) Eugenio "Totico" Arango (credited as Carlos Eugenio) - cowbell (1, 3, 6) Abbey Lincoln - vocal (1, 5) londonjazzcollector.wordpress.com/2014/08/31/max-roach-percussion-bitter-sweet-1961-impulse/
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Post by gregorythefish on Dec 17, 2017 0:53:30 GMT
it is a very good record. i have both of roach's impulse albums and i love them.
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Post by gst on Dec 25, 2017 13:54:54 GMT
Yeah that’s bad. Isn’t this a John Legend song?
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