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Post by Martin on Nov 23, 2017 12:51:44 GMT
I've got a new itch to scratch this week and none of my research so far has satisfactorily eased it. So maybe you lovely people can help...
Basically, what's the deal with Pacific Jazz and pressings on coloured vinyl? I've sometimes encountered red vinyl versions of some Pacific Jazz records but for others there only ever seem to have been the conventional black vinyl ones. This throws up so many questions.
1). Why did they do red ones?
2). Did they ever do other colours - blue, yellow etc? And, if so, did the colour signify anything?
3). Were the coloured pressings released simultaneously with the black pressings (and thus should be equally considered as first pressings)?
4). Are there any differences is pressing quality or sound quality between the coloured pressings and the black pressings?
5). Has anybody ever attempted to compile a comprehensive list of the coloured pressings?
You might be wondering what triggered this soul searching. Well, I just purchased a nice Chet Baker Pacific Jazz first pressing on black vinyl and I started digging around to see what other ones I might like to add to my collection on the strength of that. Within minutes I'd discovered that there were both red vinyl and black vinyl versions of JAZZ AT ANN ARBOR but not, as far as I could tell, of any of his other Pacific Jazz LPs.
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Post by alunsevern on Nov 24, 2017 6:14:00 GMT
I can't help you with Pacific, Martin, but isn't it the case that others used coloured vinyl too? Fantasy Debut, for instance. Search the main LJC site for the piece on Mingus's CHAZZ for confirmation of this -- mono pressings on red vinyl, stereo on blue (admittedly, it is me saying that and I can't remember where I got that information from, but red vinyl pressings of CHAZZ clearly are a fact!).** The real question may be why so few labels used coloured vinyl. You might have thought that some would have seen it as a useful sales gimmick -- "Look out for more red records -- the sign of another great LP on the XXXXXX label!" UPDATE: **In fact, I have now had chance to look again and realise that I found the information about Fantasy Debut red and blue vinyl issues HERE.
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Post by dottorjazz on Nov 24, 2017 6:24:17 GMT
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Post by dottorjazz on Nov 24, 2017 6:29:32 GMT
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Post by nicknick on Nov 24, 2017 8:38:18 GMT
I have only one red vinyl in my sound library:
The Bud Powell Trio (Fantasy 6006, 1962) LP USA. This is the second part of live recordings at Massey Hall (15 May 1953) that includes compositions played by the rhythm section of the Charlie Parker / Dizzie Gillespie Quintet only. By the way, local New Jazz Society which organized the gig initially invited Lennie Tristano who declined the invitation and proposed Bud Powell. As for colored vinyl in general, there is an opinion that black vinyl is more reliable and wear-resistant material. That is why some people are reluctant to buy colored vinyl and prefer the classic black color. That's all I know on the topic:-(
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Post by dottorjazz on Nov 24, 2017 9:14:24 GMT
an obscure California label, Nocturne, printed it's 10" in both blue and black vinyl, colored were first. here an example, Virgil Gonsalves Sextet, NLP 8
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Post by dottorjazz on Nov 24, 2017 9:20:43 GMT
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Post by dottorjazz on Nov 24, 2017 9:24:49 GMT
California again, Contemporary: their first 10" should be the only one on red vinyl. Howard Rumsey's Lighthouse all stars, Contemporary C 2501 Attachment Deleted
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Post by dottorjazz on Nov 24, 2017 9:31:01 GMT
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Post by dottorjazz on Nov 24, 2017 9:34:44 GMT
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Post by dottorjazz on Nov 24, 2017 9:40:17 GMT
one of the rarest: Ted Curson Plenty of Horn, on Old Town OT LP 2003. black vinyl has a different label. blue was first but I'm not sure my copy is a preview (no stamps anywhere). there's Eric Dolphy on a couple of tracks.
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Post by dottorjazz on Nov 24, 2017 9:44:09 GMT
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Post by dottorjazz on Nov 24, 2017 9:47:03 GMT
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Post by dottorjazz on Nov 24, 2017 9:52:51 GMT
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Post by alunsevern on Nov 24, 2017 12:14:55 GMT
We might have known: Dottore has cornered the market in red vinyl! Congratulations, Dott. I like that MNiles -- even though it isn't red
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