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Post by boneman73 on May 9, 2017 13:36:58 GMT
Hello LJC! (my first post, but a reader of the blog for years): I'm hoping some of you could help me with something I can't seem to find any info on. Specifically, it's the Slide Hampton Octet "Somethin' Sanctified" album. I don't have the LP yet (only a CD of above average quality; stereo is listed on the cd's copied LP cover). The CD I have seems to be actual stereo, not reprocessed, so that leads me to believe it was recorded in stereo (FWIW, recorded in NYC, October 1960). I see mono LP's available, so my question is: Did Atlantic use 2 sets of masters (mono and stereo) or did they fold down the stereo to mono? Secondly-does anyone have this album and care to comment on the quality of pressing of the mono and/or stereo?
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Post by gregorythefish on May 9, 2017 21:06:51 GMT
Hello and welcome, boneman. I'm not sure that's the best way to play a trombone, there, but since you are the boneman, we'll defer to you.
In any case, I have only one stereo Atlantic LP : Rufus Harley's "Bagpipe Blues" from the mid-60's, which I enjoy very much. All of my other Atlantic LPs are mono and most are from the late 50's. There's probably no way to be sure, but my guess would be that they used a fold-down method, which would simply be the sum of both channels into a single channel, and should provide a fine, genuine mono experience.
Slide Hampton is someone I know little about other than from a few Woody Shaw LPs, which I adore. I will look this one up.
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Post by clifford on May 10, 2017 14:55:20 GMT
I recall Atlantic being an early adopter of stereo and would not be surprised if the titles from 1960 onward were folded down into mono. The original press is a tricolor black fan, with green and blue for stereo and red and purple denoting mono.
I've never had this LP but will keep an eye out. The Hampton which I return to often is The Fabulous Slide Hampton Quartet on Pathé from 1969, with Joachim Kühn, Philly Joe Jones and NHOP. It's a stunner.
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Post by boneman73 on May 10, 2017 19:58:48 GMT
Thanks!! I appreciate the info - and it seems to confirm what I am 'homing into' the more I read. Stereo recording. In that case - I will be pursuing a stereo LP (and this is coming from a guy who likes mono and even has a mono cart, for those 'monos'). On the music front - Slide Hampton really put together a great group, with his Octet. It is incredibly nimble - and what I mean my that is, it can sound like a tight big band at one moment, and then instantly transform into vehicle for some (blistering yet soulful) solos, like a small ensemble. I've known of this album for years, but just recently re-listened to it and went "geez - that's good". Clifford - I'll check out the LP you suggested; Pathe' discs are great, but can be hard to come by. On the "boneman" front, Slide Hampton plays his trombone backwards (slide is moved via left arm, bell over right shoulder. 'Southpaw', so to speak. Very unorthodox in the 'bone world). Given my profile picture, my credibility on this front may be either heightened or diminished
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Post by gst on May 11, 2017 15:39:21 GMT
Okay I'll admit it...trombone is my least favorite instrument in jazz; perhaps leftover ill feelings from being forced to play it when young. I remember it being very cumbersome and uncouth. That's not to say I don't have and listen to albums by JJ, Kai or Curtis.
All that aside I'm giving Slide a chance. I'm listening to "Something' Sanctified, Sister Salvation, Live at Birdland" on Amazon's music player right now (one of only two albums/playlists available).
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Post by clifford on May 11, 2017 20:48:47 GMT
Boneman, that's very interesting about Slide! Thanks for the insight. gst, he's also superb on a Dexter Gordon date with Dizzy Reece done in Copenhagen in 1969, released on MPS as -- get this -- "A Day in Copenhagen." This is a pretty interesting record, a Czech big band date adding Slide and the John Surman Trio (with Barre Phillips and Stu Martin) for a rangy, hard-swinging set, and usually obtainable cheaply.
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Post by gregorythefish on May 12, 2017 17:49:36 GMT
i'll admit to not being a huge trombone fan in general, but the best players are a true pleasure to listen to.
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Post by Rich on May 12, 2017 21:00:41 GMT
Hello and welcome (to the forum, anyway)! The album jacket indicates that Tom Dowd recorded this album. Tom Dowd was one of the early adopters of 8-track technology (I'm pretty sure his first 8-track recordings go back as far as 1957), so I'd be willing to bet that this album was recorded to 8-track tape, then distinct stereo and mono master tapes would have probably been made before lacquers were cut (I doubt they skipped this step). So for albums recorded by Dowd from the late-50s and early 60s, stereo and mono both have their own "true" and dedicated mixes...that's my understanding, anyway. By the way: I can't get enough Curtis Fuller so I guess I'm a 'bone fan.
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Post by gregorythefish on May 13, 2017 17:17:24 GMT
to be fair, rich, i can't imagine how even bone-haters could dislike fuller.
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Post by gst on Jan 16, 2018 15:59:56 GMT
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