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Post by gregorythefish on Sept 30, 2018 21:14:03 GMT
Hello all,
As you all know, in the past year I've gotten myself a lovely Rega P1 that I extremely pleased with. Since then, I have begun to notice a shocking uptick in the number of needle sticks that occur while listening. Every six or seven records seems to have one, despite visually being mint, and of those, 90% resolve themselves in three or four rotations, or, at worst, after a simple cleaning, and never occur again. Some record will have five or six. It doesn't happen too often, but when it does it totally ruins the listening experience. Can certain setups or needles encourage this sort of thing?
Of course, the ones that resolve themselves may be the result of some deep gunk that the needle drags out eventually, but I find it very odd that these are ALWAYS needle sticks. Shouldn't some just be good ol' skips? None are.
Thoughts? What's a good alternative needle to try on the P1?
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Post by gst on Oct 1, 2018 12:53:02 GMT
Perhaps it isn’t set to the proper tracking force?
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Post by Rich on Oct 1, 2018 15:07:29 GMT
It sounds like it may be either a tracking force or anti-skating force problem. Since you say these records are visually mint and since you're saying it's always "sticks", I don't think it has much to do with the stylus shape.
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Post by gregorythefish on Oct 1, 2018 16:16:21 GMT
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Post by clifford on Oct 1, 2018 17:27:33 GMT
could be the belt also.
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Post by bassman on Oct 2, 2018 6:37:45 GMT
Could you elaborate, Clifford?
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Post by gst on Oct 2, 2018 14:38:43 GMT
I'm not familiar with the Rega to offer any suggestions. You'll probably want to reach out to the folks on sites like audioasylum or something similar.
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Post by gregorythefish on Oct 2, 2018 17:09:33 GMT
please do elaborate, clifford.
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Post by clifford on Oct 2, 2018 17:23:17 GMT
too loose or too tight a belt will cause hindrances in proper turntable motion and thus inhibit the passage of a needle over grit in the grooves.
when new, my turntable had this problem of sticking, and all the weight/skate issues were negligible. Replacing w/ a different and slightly looser belt solved the problem immediately. But it's gotta be the porridge that's just right, if you know what I mean.
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Post by bassman on Oct 3, 2018 6:53:54 GMT
too loose or too tight a belt will cause hindrances in proper turntable motion and thus inhibit the passage of a needle over grit in the grooves. when new, my turntable had this problem of sticking, and all the weight/skate issues were negligible. Replacing w/ a different and slightly looser belt solved the problem immediately. But it's gotta be the porridge that's just right, if you know what I mean. In this case, wow and flutter would be bad enough to be noticeable to anyone's ears, wouldn't they? If what you mean is some kind of vibration caused by a poorly adjusted belt, OK, this might result in skipping - grit or no grit. But again, the first thing you would notice would be flutter, long before the first incident of skipping.
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Post by jcband on Oct 3, 2018 9:49:56 GMT
I own an RP1 and had a sticking issue a few months after purchase and I fixed it by moving the arm back and forth its full travel arc a few times quickly. The pivot had gotten gunked up somehow and after I worked the kinks out so to speak it has never been a problem since. But my sticks were coming in the same general area on the records, where are yours taking place?
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Post by gregorythefish on Oct 3, 2018 16:50:56 GMT
My sticks have occurred in various locations, but are very much repeatable. The same exact instance of music each time. And rarely does a proper cleaning help. I think my setup might be oversensitive. I will try your method. jrock sent me some info on IG that will be a more involved but likely helpful fix it I need that.
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Post by clifford on Oct 3, 2018 17:28:59 GMT
too loose or too tight a belt will cause hindrances in proper turntable motion and thus inhibit the passage of a needle over grit in the grooves. when new, my turntable had this problem of sticking, and all the weight/skate issues were negligible. Replacing w/ a different and slightly looser belt solved the problem immediately. But it's gotta be the porridge that's just right, if you know what I mean. In this case, wow and flutter would be bad enough to be noticeable to anyone's ears, wouldn't they? If what you mean is some kind of vibration caused by a poorly adjusted belt, OK, this might result in skipping - grit or no grit. But again, the first thing you would notice would be flutter, long before the first incident of skipping. not necessarily -- have you HEARD the music I listen to?
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Post by bassman on Oct 4, 2018 6:39:18 GMT
In this case, wow and flutter would be bad enough to be noticeable to anyone's ears, wouldn't they? If what you mean is some kind of vibration caused by a poorly adjusted belt, OK, this might result in skipping - grit or no grit. But again, the first thing you would notice would be flutter, long before the first incident of skipping. not necessarily -- have you HEARD the music I listen to? True, there are certain types of audio material that make it difficult to identify flutter. But it's hard for me to imagine that this would apply to substantial parts of your favourite music. Otherwise ... why buy a decent turntable?
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Post by gregorythefish on Oct 4, 2018 16:47:24 GMT
shots fired!
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