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Post by sztiv on Dec 13, 2023 14:09:05 GMT
Have you heard Pharoah's IZIPHO ZAM ? Yeah, not my bag. Nor mine.
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Post by jazzhead on Dec 19, 2023 13:18:40 GMT
Rick Beato has posted a very interesting interview with The Police guitarist Andy Summers.
This is jazz related btw!
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Post by dg on Dec 31, 2023 1:21:18 GMT
Saturday afternoon I fell asleep with a local jazz radio station playing, and woke up to this. From 1972 album GETTIN' OFF on Earthbound Records, with Bill Mason and Hubert Laws, engineered by Rudy Van Gelder. And I never even liked jazz organ - or jazz flute!
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Post by dmgrl on Jan 1, 2024 0:24:45 GMT
Saturday afternoon I fell asleep with a local jazz radio station playing, and woke up to this. From 1972 album GETTIN' OFF on Earthbound Records, with Bill Mason and Hubert Laws, engineered by Rudy Van Gelder. And I never even liked jazz organ - or jazz flute! Very cool. Hubert Laws had a beautiful flute tone - better than Mann, Kirk, Dolphy et al (IMHO). Mason was an under-appreciated talent. Rudy was no slouch - I guess he didn't just work for the big jazz names - Prestige, Blue Note...
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Post by bassman on Jan 1, 2024 9:15:29 GMT
Best known to George Benson aficionados, Ronnie Cuber was a widely appreciated studio musician. Remembering the Benson LPs, what also comes to mind is the great number (was it a great number - or was it always the same guy anyway?) of anonymous bari players who played their half choruses on some earlier, pre-1962, rock and roll discs. I often used to think to myself: Man, this sounds great, who is that person? I am just listening to Ronnie's "Cuber Libre" LP. Sam Jones, unfortunately, was left to set up his bass in the broom closet.
P.S. Funny how people like Ron Carter and Tony Williams seem to have influenced older players at that time. Effects that remain debatable.
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Post by dg on Jan 1, 2024 16:25:39 GMT
Best known to George Benson aficionados, Ronnie Cuber was a widely appreciated studio musician. Remembering the Benson LPs, what also comes to mind is the great number (was it a great number - or was it always the same guy anyway?) of anonymous bari players who played their half choruses on some earlier, pre-1962, rock and roll discs. I often used to think to myself: Man, this sounds great, who is that person? I am just listening to Ronnie's "Cuber Libre" LP... The baritone sax is an essential part of the beautiful sound of a saxophone section, but, to my ear, it is generally an awkward, unpleasant sounding solo voice. A few players have coaxed a softer, warmer sound out of the behemoth, but Cuber seems to be not one of them. I recently acquired as a gift something of a rarity - Andre Previn's soundtrack album to The Subterraneans, the movie based on Jack Kerouac's novel. The featured jazz player is Gerry Mulligan, certainly one of the better baritone sax players. Previn was an interesting character, wedding elements of the classical, jazz and pop. Some of his jazz albums are quite good, as I have discussed previously.
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Post by bassman on Jan 2, 2024 8:18:26 GMT
Best known to George Benson aficionados, Ronnie Cuber was a widely appreciated studio musician. Remembering the Benson LPs, what also comes to mind is the great number (was it a great number - or was it always the same guy anyway?) of anonymous bari players who played their half choruses on some earlier, pre-1962, rock and roll discs. I often used to think to myself: Man, this sounds great, who is that person? I am just listening to Ronnie's "Cuber Libre" LP... The baritone sax is an essential part of the beautiful sound of a saxophone section, but, to my ear, it is generally an awkward, unpleasant sounding solo voice. [ ... ] I strongly disagree. Without Harry Carney both as a section player and a solo voice, the Ellington Orchestra wouldn't be half as good. I also love my Serge Chaloff albums, and Mulligan's solo on "Festive Minor" makes his Columbia quartet album one of my desert island records. Every man to his taste.
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Post by dg on Jan 2, 2024 15:58:08 GMT
The baritone sax is an essential part of the beautiful sound of a saxophone section, but, to my ear, it is generally an awkward, unpleasant sounding solo voice. [ ... ] ".... Every man to his taste." .....
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Post by bassman on Jan 3, 2024 8:57:51 GMT
[ ... ] I recently acquired as a gift something of a rarity - Andre Previn's soundtrack album to The Subterraneans, the movie based on Jack Kerouac's novel. The featured jazz player is Gerry Mulligan, certainly one of the better baritone sax players. Previn was an interesting character, wedding elements of the classical, jazz and pop. Some of his jazz albums are quite good, as I have discussed previously. I knew I had an old VHS rip of this movie, and I found it. It contains some jazz ( "at [0:19] and [1:12]", according to my notes made years ago). I also have a CD rip of the record you own, I'll give it another listen some time.
I dimly remember the movie, though I am unlikely to give it another view. Here's what David Meeker, author of Jazz in the Movies, had to say about it: "A silly, novelettish adaptation of Jack Kerouac's book about the 'New Bohemians'. Contains some jazz, of a kind, written by André Previn and he appears together with Carmen McRae, Gerry Mulligan, Bob Enevoldsen, Art Pepper, Art Farmer, Russ Freeman, Red Mitchell, Dave Bailey, Shelly Manne, Bill Perkins and Chico Hamilton. Gerry Mulligan also has a few lines of dialogue in his role as a friendly neighbourhood clergyman (sic). Buddy Clark bass, participated on soundtrack."
In any case, I do appreciate André Previn, both as a classical musician and a jazz pianist. I have all of his Contemporary albums, plus a few others.
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Post by Doom Girl on Jan 3, 2024 16:07:00 GMT
Kerouac's book was ill-used by the filmmaker, but the soundtrack is worth a listen. Some of the later film adaptations of Kerouac's work are pretty good, e.g. ON THE ROAD (2012) and BIG SUR (2013).
DOUBLE PLAY with Russ Freeman and Shelly Manne is my favorite Previn album (on Contemporary). I've also enjoyed LIKE PREVIN with Red Mitchell (one of my favorite bass players) and Frankie Capp. (Red Mitchell's album with Jim Hall recorded at Sweet Basil, on Artist's House, 1978, ia a real gem.)
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Post by dottorjazz on Jan 3, 2024 17:43:34 GMT
if I don't go wrong, some friends here do not like the sound of bari. I would like to know how many love the bass (sax).
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Post by dottorjazz on Jan 3, 2024 17:49:25 GMT
there's only one instrument that I hate for its sound, fortunately quite rare in Jazz, harpsichord. the effect on my ears is the same that nails on blackboard do. I can't listen to a lot of masterpieces, written for this instrument, from the 17th and 18th century. an example: Bach's Goldberg variations. happily there are at least three different versions by Glenn Gould, on piano.
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Post by dg on Jan 3, 2024 18:58:15 GMT
.... Bach's Goldberg variations. happily there are at least three different versions by Glenn Gould, on piano. Bass Sax - horrible, horrible noise, to my ear, just magnifying all that I don't like about the baritone. I much prefer the dulcet sounds of the alto and tenor. The sopranino is an annoyance at the other end, with the soprano only being rescued by masters such as Coltrane, who makes anything sound good to me. Glenn Gould's interpretations are wonderful, but I do prefer the Goldberg variations on harpsichord, such as on Rosalyn Tureck's superb 2-record set (Columbia MasterWorks M2 35900). I have generally found the use of the harpsichord in jazz or rock unpleasant, although I seem to remember a Rolling Stone's number where it was used quite effectively.
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Post by bassman on Jan 4, 2024 8:29:33 GMT
if I don't go wrong, some friends here do not like the sound of bari. I would like to know how many love the bass (sax). [ Braxton video ] This, of course, is an "exquisite" choice.
But no, I don't like the bass sax either. To me it remains a "novelty" device used in early "hokum" bands.
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Post by dg on Jan 5, 2024 14:51:56 GMT
A ubiquitous voice on jazz radio when I was growing up.
From 1960, with Leroy Vinnegar and Ron Jefferson.
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