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Post by jazzhead on May 26, 2021 14:58:30 GMT
A live recording of Giant Steps does exist. So where is it? Had a search on Google and this turned up: "At least one unissued 1960 live recording exists of Coltrane playing “Giant Steps,” and a jazz scholar who has heard it reports that, in the ensuing year, Coltrane had learned to navigate the obstacle course with greater spontaneity and fewer prepared formulas." www.loc.gov/static/programs/national-recording-preservation-board/documents/GiantSteps.pdf
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Post by Doom Girl on May 26, 2021 20:39:45 GMT
TY for interesting article from the Library of Congress.
This starts out sounding like a certain Miles Davis tune and then morphs into something sounding like giant steps.
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Post by bassman on May 27, 2021 6:54:50 GMT
TY for interesting article from the Library of Congress. This starts out sounding like a certain Miles Davis tune and then morphs into something sounding like giant steps. [ ... ] Blue Rose - 1956 Milestones - 1958 Giant Steps - 1959
Just in case ... (I know that you know!)
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Post by jazzhead on May 27, 2021 12:29:54 GMT
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Post by Doom Girl on May 27, 2021 17:35:24 GMT
TY for interesting article from the Library of Congress. This starts out sounding like a certain Miles Davis tune and then morphs into something sounding like giant steps. [ ... ] Blue Rose - 1956 Milestones - 1958 Giant Steps - 1959
Just in case ... (I know that you know!)
Yes, the chronology is noteworthy. Ellington was a fount of musical knowledge, inspiration and sophistication - of which, both Davis and Coltrane were well aware. (Although the broken English leaves something to be desired,) this excerpt from the musicweb site is informative: "Composer: Duke Ellington ( 1956). Recording: 'Blue Rose', Rosemary Clooney and Duke Ellington and his Orchestra. Harmonic topics: 'Blue Rose' is an easy introduction of the 'Coltrane changes' ('avant-la-lettre', 'Giant Steps' is composed in 1959). The medium slow tempo enhances the feeling of three equal key centres (F, Db and A major). The tonal connection though, is pretty strong because of the descending progression: each next key centre sounds like a bVI degree to the previous. From bar 13, an harmonic sequence starts from the subdominant key Bb, but stops at the first 'Giant Step' Gbmaj7. From there, Gbmaj7 becomes Gbm6 (IV MD) and moves in a plagal progression to Dbmaj. This key is also major third related with F major, the initial key centre of 'Blue Rose'. In 'Giant Steps', the complete cycle of ascending major third related major key centres is presented in bar 9-16 of that particular tune. The idea of three equal key centres is in Giant Steps even more present because the ascending variant feels less 'natural' than the descending cycle (introduced in Blue Rose, a couple of years earlier by Duke Ellington). The trumpet introduction with the parallel seventh chords (Gm7-Am7-Bbmaj7-Am7) seems to be the model of the later 'Milestones' ( 1958, Miles Davis): same chords and top note, even the rhythm is almost the same.
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Post by Doom Girl on May 27, 2021 17:49:30 GMT
This is another fine informative article. Reading it makes me again wish that I could have been present to hear Coltrane in one of those incredible performances. Live at the Village Vanguard and Live at the Village Vanguard Again! have long been among my favorite Coltrane albums. Part of the reason these are among my favorites, I think, is because the Village Vanguard was one of my favorite places to visit when I was in New York, and I can recreate the setting in my mind's eye as I listen to the albums. Sweet Basil was another favorite venue on 7th Avenue South at which many fine albums were recorded. Seventh Avenue South, owned by the Brecker Brothers, was yet another excellent jazz club in the area.
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Post by bassman on May 28, 2021 9:27:17 GMT
Re: "Ellington was a fount of musical knowledge, inspiration and sophistication" (Doom Girl)
I have always admired Ellington's use of chords. But even when the harmonic structure is sparse, to say the least, I am awe-struck by the feeling he and his musicians are able to create on occasions like these (do listen to the entire piece to follow its build-up!):
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