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Post by gst on May 13, 2016 21:35:32 GMT
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Post by gregorythefish on May 14, 2016 14:37:31 GMT
my understanding is that prestige was a much more chaotic organization than blue note, since weinstock was a notorious penny pincher (recycled vinyl, for example) and so used several different plants, often at once. i wouldn't worry too much about the flat edge. it became unpopular right around the time of the 7000 series on prestige, and some factories used it, and some didn't.
my NYC copy of monk and rollins has a flat edge, but my billy taylors, stan getz, MJQ, etc from earlier do not. but they all have every other hallmark.
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Post by jrock1675 on May 15, 2016 17:13:34 GMT
This is a topic that interests me greatly. With Blue Notes the line of demarcation for flat edge pressings is very defined. For Prestige, I have not been able to figure it out. I have a copy of Cookin' Prestige 7094 that is clearly flat edge, although the vinyl weight is lighter than Blue Notes with flat edge. I also have a copy of Young Bloods Prestige 7080 that appears to be flat edge but is not entirely flat like the copy of 7094 (although it is very close). I have several other 7000 series that have a raised lip both before and after these two LPs that carry all other correct hallmarks for a first pressing (deep groove, RVG, New York label address and correct New York jacket address for the particular catalog number). I'm also of the opinion that whether the vinyl is flat edge or raised lip should not be a determining factor for identifying Prestige first pressings. It just seems too randomized.
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Post by gst on May 16, 2016 15:56:44 GMT
If the following is correct then it seems to me that any album that was originally released before 1957, but has a raise edge then it would have to be a later (although one could still argue original) pressing.
“Here’s some information on the Edges/Rims. The change from Flat Rim (aka Flat Edge) to Safety Lip occurred in 1957. It was in response to new industry standards, occasioned by the popularity of automatic changers, whereby disks were routinely stacked and would fall on each other, the way we recall handling 45rpm disks. To lessen the damage to the LPs, the Safety Lip, also called a Groove Guard by one of the companies, was created at the edge of each side of the disk to keep the actual surfaces of the two disks from touching each other when they came into horizontal contact. It also protected the needle, since on a flat edge disk the needle can slip off the edge and drop down, hitting the platen when it is in Automatic turntable mode (you have to be a clutz to do this placing the needle at the beginning of the record manually!)."
Wondering if any of our first pressing fundamentalist make such a distinction.
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